If Liverpool City Council cannot afford to run leisure centres how on earth are deprived communities supposed to fund them? It's not as if people in these deprived parts have got the odd £100k or so to taker over
Liam Robinson - first came for the buses, now it's leisure centres . The commissioners junta want to close down council services before collecting fatcat salaries to continue their dirty work in other bankrupt areas
This is what life looks like in a major city where the council have squandered any chance to raise the tax base. They have thought only of themselves, and the city as their piggy bank. Now we pay the price. Today it’s leisure centres, in future years it will be basic healthcare provision.
We’re the only major UK city whose economy has shrunk in the past 20 years. It’s disgraceful that this has been allowed to happen, given the opportunities that existed.
The only positive from the council offloading the leisure centres is the glimmer of hope that someone competent might actually be able to run them.
Er, no, this is what life looks like when outsiders are appointed to carry out the Government's Dirty work which the Council refuse to, (a task for which they are being very handsomely rewarded too). But hey, let's not look too far eh, let's just keep the diversion tactics going and lay the blame SQUARELY at the feet of the Council. Don't forget that the Council are not in direct control here, they're still under the supervision of the Commissioners, who were sent in by Whitehall, in order to ensure that their commands/wishes/requests are all agreed to.
By the way, sorry to have to interrupt your tirade with a few facts, but Liverpool is NOT the only Council in trouble, Birmingham City Council have had to tell the Government they're bankrupt, a few London Borough Councils have all but followed suit, even down in the leafy suburbs such as Devon, and Poole in Dorset, are all suffering Er Financial "Difficulty" Much, much worse than Liverpool, and I doubt very much that too many of them are painted the same hue as Liverpool City Council Happens to be
Sounds like someone is hoping we forget why those commissioners were sent to the council in the first place. As a reminder, it wasn’t because a brave council was refusing to do the government’s dirty work…. But rather because of dirty work going on at our great expense!!
I don’t dispute that Birmingham is in difficulty - due to a multi-billion pound lawsuit. Or that a silly council in the south spunked all their money on duff investments. Nor even that some other councils like Nottingham face genuine challenges.
But I do dispute utterly that Liverpool ever needed to be one of them.
Despite having near similar cuts as us, Manchester council is facing no such crisis. Mainly because they haven’t squandered the economic opportunities of the past 20 years, and their people increasingly have the jobs to pay the council tax and the city’s growing businesses pay business rates.
The contrast between them and us is the result of Liverpool Labour’s time running our council.
It’s not my money, it’s not my children’s money. It’s my husbands money..... but you’ll still benefit!!! Silly woman, how can anyone feel sympathy for her.
You forgot to add that it was the Governement's money, and also that it was only passed to her by her mate "dance floor Mick" for safe keeping, to be handed back, once the emergency was over, Much in the same way that the money was "only resting" In Father Ted Crilly's Bank Account a few years before
If the local communities wont use the leisure centres then they should be shut down and the council focus its support on those centres that are used.
"Footfall at Everton Park is down by 20% on pre-pandemic levels, with Toxteth trailing by 10%."
Expecting local community groups to take them on is fantasy, unless the local groups can repurpose them to something the local communities would actually pay for.
"Knowsley Council, for example, set up an arm’s length company, Volair, in 2014, in a bid to save money (it’s still heavily subsidised to this day, however)" is trying to hide the subsidy and would not be allowed to happen if they had commissioners looking over their shoulders.
I confess to also calling my concrete yard the ‘back garden’ — but I reckon I might just about potentially have the Oxford dictionary on my side here on account of the (currently mostly) weeds growing in plant pots out there: “a piece of ground adjoining a house, in which grass, flowers, and shrubs may be grown.”
If Liverpool City Council cannot afford to run leisure centres how on earth are deprived communities supposed to fund them? It's not as if people in these deprived parts have got the odd £100k or so to taker over
Liam Robinson - first came for the buses, now it's leisure centres . The commissioners junta want to close down council services before collecting fatcat salaries to continue their dirty work in other bankrupt areas
This is what life looks like in a major city where the council have squandered any chance to raise the tax base. They have thought only of themselves, and the city as their piggy bank. Now we pay the price. Today it’s leisure centres, in future years it will be basic healthcare provision.
We’re the only major UK city whose economy has shrunk in the past 20 years. It’s disgraceful that this has been allowed to happen, given the opportunities that existed.
The only positive from the council offloading the leisure centres is the glimmer of hope that someone competent might actually be able to run them.
Er, no, this is what life looks like when outsiders are appointed to carry out the Government's Dirty work which the Council refuse to, (a task for which they are being very handsomely rewarded too). But hey, let's not look too far eh, let's just keep the diversion tactics going and lay the blame SQUARELY at the feet of the Council. Don't forget that the Council are not in direct control here, they're still under the supervision of the Commissioners, who were sent in by Whitehall, in order to ensure that their commands/wishes/requests are all agreed to.
By the way, sorry to have to interrupt your tirade with a few facts, but Liverpool is NOT the only Council in trouble, Birmingham City Council have had to tell the Government they're bankrupt, a few London Borough Councils have all but followed suit, even down in the leafy suburbs such as Devon, and Poole in Dorset, are all suffering Er Financial "Difficulty" Much, much worse than Liverpool, and I doubt very much that too many of them are painted the same hue as Liverpool City Council Happens to be
Sounds like someone is hoping we forget why those commissioners were sent to the council in the first place. As a reminder, it wasn’t because a brave council was refusing to do the government’s dirty work…. But rather because of dirty work going on at our great expense!!
I don’t dispute that Birmingham is in difficulty - due to a multi-billion pound lawsuit. Or that a silly council in the south spunked all their money on duff investments. Nor even that some other councils like Nottingham face genuine challenges.
But I do dispute utterly that Liverpool ever needed to be one of them.
Despite having near similar cuts as us, Manchester council is facing no such crisis. Mainly because they haven’t squandered the economic opportunities of the past 20 years, and their people increasingly have the jobs to pay the council tax and the city’s growing businesses pay business rates.
The contrast between them and us is the result of Liverpool Labour’s time running our council.
Where’s the PPE money, Michelle?
It’s not my money, it’s not my children’s money. It’s my husbands money..... but you’ll still benefit!!! Silly woman, how can anyone feel sympathy for her.
You forgot to add that it was the Governement's money, and also that it was only passed to her by her mate "dance floor Mick" for safe keeping, to be handed back, once the emergency was over, Much in the same way that the money was "only resting" In Father Ted Crilly's Bank Account a few years before
If the local communities wont use the leisure centres then they should be shut down and the council focus its support on those centres that are used.
"Footfall at Everton Park is down by 20% on pre-pandemic levels, with Toxteth trailing by 10%."
Expecting local community groups to take them on is fantasy, unless the local groups can repurpose them to something the local communities would actually pay for.
"Knowsley Council, for example, set up an arm’s length company, Volair, in 2014, in a bid to save money (it’s still heavily subsidised to this day, however)" is trying to hide the subsidy and would not be allowed to happen if they had commissioners looking over their shoulders.
Nice house being advertised, but surely not a garden. Unless it's a cement garden?
I confess to also calling my concrete yard the ‘back garden’ — but I reckon I might just about potentially have the Oxford dictionary on my side here on account of the (currently mostly) weeds growing in plant pots out there: “a piece of ground adjoining a house, in which grass, flowers, and shrubs may be grown.”